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	<title>Cyanide, CFA, and TOC Analysis</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Method updates and cyanide</title>
		<link>http://cyanide.williamlipps.com/2011/05/25/method-updates-and-cyanide/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Cyanide Guy</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[We haven&#8217;t written in a while as we wait for the MUR to be approved. We are hoping for later this year.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We haven&#8217;t written in a while as we wait for the MUR to be approved. We are hoping for later this year.</p>
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		<title>Gas diffusion and distillation</title>
		<link>http://cyanide.williamlipps.com/2010/02/09/gas-diffusion-and-distillation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Cyanide Guy</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[perhaps I have been unclear, or expecting everyone to understand exactly what gas diffusion is. To explain this further let&#8217;s first differentiate between the concept of manual distillation of cyanide versus the automated distillation that occurs on an automated analyzer. They are different.
Manual Distillation is not really a distillation as you may interpret it. While [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps I have been unclear, or expecting everyone to understand exactly what gas diffusion is. To explain this further let&#8217;s first differentiate between the concept of manual distillation of cyanide versus the automated distillation that occurs on an automated analyzer. They are different.</p>
<p>Manual Distillation is not really a distillation as you may interpret it. While you may be heating the solution to boiling you are not passing the solution from container A and condensing it in container B. In cyanide manual distillations you are boiling the sample in strong acid for a prolonged period of time (about 1 hour usually). A cold finger condenser drips the steam back into the original container as water. A carrier stream of laboratory air bubbles through the boiling sample and pulls the vapor (theoretically the HCN) into an impinger containing a sodium hydroxide solution. It is the prolonged boiling with strong acid that decomposes the cyanide metal bonds, allows the CN to convert to HCN, The boiling (heat) combined with the purging of air adds enough energy so that the HCN gas pass into the carrier stream. Cyanide will not transfer readily into the carrier stream without the heat. However, without the prolonged boiling in strong acid the metal cyanide complexes do not convert to cyanide.</p>
<p>In a Continuous Flow automated cyanide method the &#8220;distillation&#8221; is almost instantaneous. A portion of the sample is vaporized and recollected after passing through a condenser that converts the steam to water. There is no prolonged boiling with acid, and the process is too fast to decompose strong metal cyanide complexes. Thus, a continuous flow in-line distillation method is only capable of analyzing weak to moderate metal cyanide complexes without extra energy supplied.</p>
<p>These weak to moderate metal cyanide complexes are exactly the same cyanide species that are measured by gas diffusion. Instead of the rapid distillation where a thin film of liquid hitting a hot surface converts immediately to steam, the HCN generated upon acidification by acid passes through a hydrophobic membrane and is absorbed into a dilute sodium hydroxide solution. It is the exact same process, and the same cyanide complexes, simply separated from the acidified solution in a slightly different way.</p>
<p>So if both flash distillation and gas diffusion separate the exact same weak to moderately strong metal cyanide complexes, how do they analyze for total cyanide (strong metal cyanide complexes)? The answer is by UV irradiation. All continuous flow methods for total cyanide require UV irradiation to liberate total cyanide so that it can be separated from the matrix by flash distillation or gas diffusion.</p>
<p>I hope you can see that the flash distillation adds nothing extra to the analysis except extra complexity. A flash distillation requires heat and a condenser. The heat requires an extra module and the condenser requires flowing water. All these extras are not recovering more cyanide. Total is dissociated by UV irradiation and all other cyanide complexes are equally recovered by gas diffusion or flash distillation. </p>
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		<title>Cyanide methods you should know</title>
		<link>http://cyanide.williamlipps.com/2009/12/07/cyanide-methods-you-should-know/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Cyanide Guy</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Available Cyanide by OIA1677 and/or ASTM D6888-09 - these methods have been recently updated to contain a sulfide abatement reagent that treats fopr sulfide automatically. Sulfide is one of the few interferences with the method. We have found that if sulfide is detected with lead carbonate it is best to dilute the sample. We have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Available Cyanide by OIA1677 and/or ASTM D6888-09 - these methods have been recently updated to contain a sulfide abatement reagent that treats fopr sulfide automatically. Sulfide is one of the few interferences with the method. We have found that if sulfide is detected with lead carbonate it is best to dilute the sample. We have also found that just because sulfide is not detected by the strips does not mean it isn&#8217;t there. Use the sulfide abatement reagent and never worry about sulfide again.</p>
<p>ASTM D7284-08 is a distillation method that uses OIA1677 and/or ASTM D6888 as the determination step. Using gas diffusion amperometry eliminates the use of hazardous and smelly pyridine plus it overcomes interferences with colorimetry, such as sulfide or sulfite. Quit making pyridine barbituric acid reagent. Quit wondering if your chloramine T is fresh. Use ASTM D7284 and measure cyanide more accurately.</p>
<p>But, why distill at all? Why not use ASTM D7511-09? This method utilizes UV irradiation to liberate strong metal cyanide and passes the HCN generated through a gas diffusion membrane into a basic acceptor solution where cyanide is measured with a highly sensitive and selective amperometric detector. No heat, and no distillation is required. It is the heat involved during distillation combined with the oxidizing power of concentrated sulfuric acid that produces cyanide out of the organic nitrogen compounds in your samples. The definition of total cyanide does not include organics and thiocyanate. Why do you want to?</p>
<p>Save time by not distilling, Save money with decreased labor. Be more accurate with gas diffusion amoperometry. Measure what you&#8217;re supposed to measure and do it quickly. </p>
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		<title>Method Update Rule 2009-2010</title>
		<link>http://cyanide.williamlipps.com/2009/11/27/method-update-rule-2009-2010/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Cyanide Guy</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[We have been working with the EPA in an effort to get the new ASTM cyanide methods approved for NPDES reporting. We have updated ASTM D2036 to include ion chromatography and FIA gas difussion amperometry as determinative steps. We have also included ASTM D7284. D7284 determines cyanide by FIA gas diffusion amperometry following small scale [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been working with the EPA in an effort to get the new ASTM cyanide methods approved for NPDES reporting. We have updated ASTM D2036 to include ion chromatography and FIA gas difussion amperometry as determinative steps. We have also included ASTM D7284. D7284 determines cyanide by FIA gas diffusion amperometry following small scale distillation. Of course, ASTM D7511 is included as well.</p>
<p>Much work has been done on the Table of approved inorganic methods to try and make it more readable, and also ofn Part 136.6. Part 136.6 is &#8220;method flexibility&#8221; and the part has been expanded to include example situations of what is allowed.</p>
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		<title>ASTM D7511-09 is finally here</title>
		<link>http://cyanide.williamlipps.com/2009/11/27/astm-d7511-09-is-finally-here/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Cyanide Guy</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[After years of existence as a instrument manufacturer method, OIA 1678 is now an ASTM International Standard. The method should be used for samples suspected to contain sulfide, thiosulfate, thiocyanate, or sulfite. These compounds interfere with distillation methods more significantly than with ASTM D7511-09. The CFR 40 Part 136 footnote 6 says that any method [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After years of existence as a instrument manufacturer method, OIA 1678 is now an ASTM International Standard. The method should be used for samples suspected to contain sulfide, thiosulfate, thiocyanate, or sulfite. These compounds interfere with distillation methods more significantly than with ASTM D7511-09. The CFR 40 Part 136 footnote 6 says that any method that overcomes these interferences can be used. EPA approval is expected next year, however, the fact that ASTM D7511-09 overcomes these specific interferents should be enough to convince you to use this method. Or would you rather continue reporting results you know are incorrect?</p>
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